| Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1 | OK what i want to know from everyones's point of view is this....
What do u believe is the best OS to use for hacking, and please it can't be windows, hacking with windows is like running up to buckingham palace naked and with i'm an idiot painted on ya chest and thinking no 1 will notice you...
Then again ya never know i could be wrong... also out of linux, which is the best version to use from a hackers perspective...
Honest opinions appreciated....
Software Monkey....
My setup: Windows 2003 Server Enterprise, Visual Studio .net on a cheap and nasty Athlon XP 2400... And so much other crap i can't include...
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| | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 11 Community Owner | Community Owner Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 11 | You can hack through windows... with a telnet session to a linux box... | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,041 UGN Elite Poster | UGN Elite Poster Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,041 | you mean an ssh session :p | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 11 Community Owner | Community Owner Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 11 | Depends on how (in)secure the server is ... | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,273 DollarDNS Owner | DollarDNS Owner Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,273 | OS has zero bearing on hacking. It will make you neither more or less easy to track down. There is nothing you can do from a linux box that you can't do from a windows box. | | | | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 240 Member | Member Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 240 | *cough* *cough* Everyone has their own opinion try both and see which you like :p
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| | | | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 390 UGN Member | UGN Member Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 390 | I totally agree with SR and Gizmo on this. You may be able to find more tools for a certian OS, but there is no real gain from trying to hack on linux as oppose to windows. If it was ME asking this question I would definatly use BlackKnights advise.
"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." -Albert Einstein Tech Ninja Security | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 207 Member | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 207 | i run both windows 2000 pro and slackware 9.1. i find i use both equally as much.//
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 815 nobody | nobody Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 815 | I think there are more, easier to find, freely available 'hacking' tools made for linux. Although the same things could be made for windows if the 'hacker' could program. Both platforms support a wide variety of programming languages and every person has thier own preference to which is better. You will have to take blackknight's advice and try them for yourself. hacking with windows is like running up to buckingham palace naked and with i'm an idiot painted on ya chest and thinking no 1 will notice you...
Maybe im dumb, but I don't understand this analogy. I don't see how doing anything from windows is more tracable then doing it from linux. Both OSes use the same protocols for internet communications. Is there something I don't know about windows? | | | | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 135 UGN Member | UGN Member Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 135 | Use both, Windows and Linux. Sometimes you need a windows box to use a windows exploit. Sometimes you can only do it in linux. Sometimes you want to play a video game so you need windows, sometime you want to feel leeto so you need linux, heh. what I'm saying is, don't focus on one OS, 75% of PC are still windows so if you want to hack 75% of computers on this world you might want to know something about windows.
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 384 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 384 | I've noticed that no one has mentioned any of the Mac OS's and what about OS 2 or the other weird ones out there, anyone got any opinions (this is just to keep the convo going)
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,255 Likes: 3 UGN Elite | UGN Elite Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,255 Likes: 3 | I prefer Geo works which came pre installed on my 286. This is one 1ee7 os. To open an application all I do is double click the icon. Now top that. | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 616 UGN Super Poster | UGN Super Poster Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 616 | Slackware, solaris, a bsd variant. Or Bell Labs Unix, all around any use does it with those. But if I had to pick...Slackware without the huge unix registry bug.
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 616 UGN Super Poster | UGN Super Poster Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 616 | Remote telnet sessions btw exist in alot more ways then just a ssh shell, if yoiur accessing a terminal that has options, you have a good selection of choices. Wether your connecting from a unix side variant, unice, or a windows, mac, whatever. Code is code, tools are tools, but to know the systems, how they work, simple backdoors(not like back orifice, and linux trojans kthx), bugs that have been there really helps. To have been around, seen [censored], learned [censored], shared [censored], seen that meaning of 0day, not in stolen, or rehashed, reused, corn beef code. Meh, my opinion is captured. Like SR said, all ppl have their own opinion, go test, choose your own. That's to everyone.
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 815 nobody | nobody Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 815 | | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 28 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 28 | I do it from XP, and Mandrake
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6 | OpenBSD or slackware for me. | | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3 | Slacware, old redhat before it was took over by fedora and definately win xp!!!!!
the last one was a joke you know! | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 860 Likes: 1 Der �belt�ter | Der �belt�ter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 860 Likes: 1 | Hahahahahahaha....
Hahahahahahahahahahaha...
But no, for real, you're dumb. | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 207 Member | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 207 | anyone used the PHLAK cd yet? i tried it out for a little bit but wasn't particularly impressed. however, i think the idea is good, and with a bit of modding, it'll probably be one of those cd's that i carry with me when i go out.//
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,041 UGN Elite Poster | UGN Elite Poster Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,041 | I saw it, but haven't given it a go yet.... One more thing on the list of things-to-do | | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,146 Likes: 1 UGN News Staff | UGN News Staff Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,146 Likes: 1 | Slacware, old redhat before it was took over by fedora and definately win xp!!!!!
the last one was a joke you know! Hahah thats really funny = ). Old Redhat lol... slacware... Good artists copy, great artists steal.
-Picasso | | | | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 207 Member | Member Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 207 | wait, i'm confused. i was pretty sure that fedora was a redhat project. and as far as i know there are plenty of tools for windows that you can't find for linux. although, these are mostly commercial tools.//
Unbodied unsouled unheard unseen Let the gift be grown in the time to call our own Truth is natural like a wind that blows Follow the direction no matter where it goes Let the truth blow like a hurricane through me
| | | | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,146 Likes: 1 UGN News Staff | UGN News Staff Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,146 Likes: 1 | if your going to use PHLAK, you should check out Knoppix STD. Its a pretty sweet distro.. Located here: http://www.knoppix-std.org/ Has a many networking and hacking tools. Good artists copy, great artists steal.
-Picasso | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 197 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 197 | Muhahahahahahha
There is no such thing as an ultimate hacking OS. running ./exploit 127.0.0.1 and getting a rootshell ain't hacking. You know what it's called? Being lame.
Anyway 99.99% doesn't even know what hacking is about. It's just something that makes you feel good when you build something up, not when you break something down.
You know what hacking is? finding holes yourself, coding exploits for it yourself, programming some nice things, etc etc. That is what is hacking is about.
So basicly it can be done from any operating system.
oh and monkeytron you are a fool
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 384 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 384 | D00 what ae you talking about.... I use Apple DOS with CatCall on my 2400 Baud Modem... oh man I can hax0r the internet like a mad man... crap I need to change 5.25 Disks to finish typing this...
Sorry couldn't resist... Basically the OS doesn't make the Hacker... a true hacker can do his work from any system and probably versed in multiple systems.... Not these proggie whores we got all over.
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| | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 8 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 8 | Well, the best OS for breaking into computer networks, is unix or a linux distro, because you have advanced packet control over the TCP/IP stack, and you can do whatever you want! Hacking is more than a telnet session....
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| | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 11 Community Owner | Community Owner Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,203 Likes: 11 | And hey, if you're new to linux get Lindows, theres a post in off topic on where you can get it free (legitly). | | |
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