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| Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 93 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 93 | Hi. Have you thought about this; how flawed the human spoken languages are?
1. The "OR" - "Would you like coffe or tea?" This statement actually means coffe XOR tea, you can't have both! But still we use the or like a logical XOR, when the OR in logics will mean (coffe XOR tea ) XOR (coffe AND tea). Totally outrageous!
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| | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 247 UGN Member | UGN Member Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 247 | http://www.lojban.org/ Happy? Oh, and the "coffee or tea" analogy is wrong. If the statement is a conditional (true/false), The person can't be asking which one you want, he's asking WHETHER OR NOT you want either. So yes, the proper word is OR. If the case was which one do you want, it would usually be stated "Which do you want, coffee or tea?"
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 93 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 93 | No, since only one can be true at the same time.
- "It's not my code that's useless it's you loosers being unable to apprecitate it because of your lack of skills!" /zenon - C++ master Apprentice
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 860 Likes: 1 Der �belt�ter | Der �belt�ter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 860 Likes: 1 | Contextually in spoken language, it's known that a question such as "coffee or tea?" allows for only one choice. If any further clarification is needed for whatever reason, you can add "which would you like?" | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 93 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 93 | Yes.. meaning that we use the or as an XOR
- "It's not my code that's useless it's you loosers being unable to apprecitate it because of your lack of skills!" /zenon - C++ master Apprentice
| | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,449 UGN Elite Poster | UGN Elite Poster Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,449 | now here's a question: who the [censored] cares? the enligh language has been so bastardized that to compare it to anything logical is just plain idiotic. | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,136 UGN Elite Poster | UGN Elite Poster Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,136 | Originally posted by zenon: Hi. Have you thought about this; how flawed the human spoken languages are?
1. The "OR" - "Would you like coffe or tea?" This statement actually means coffe XOR tea, you can't have both! But still we use the or like a logical XOR, when the OR in logics will mean (coffe XOR tea ) XOR (coffe AND tea). Totally outrageous! I hope a chick asks you, "Would you like pussy or a blowjob?" and you start babbling about an XOR and how her question is totally outrageous. | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 81 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 81 | since when was the English language based off of logical opperands?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -George Orwell
| | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 384 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 384 | Further more considering the grammer, odd spellings, and what not, how can the English language BE logical? Nevermind tossing ing opperands.
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,449 UGN Elite Poster | UGN Elite Poster Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,449 | | | | | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 81 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 81 | but I understand what you are trying to get at.
my Discrete Math professor taught the class about XOR and OR by distingusing between OR in English and the OR in logic.
So. Yep.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -George Orwell
| | | | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 11 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 11 | While i m waiting around here window shopping, they should replace 1 letter of the english alpahbet.
It makes better sense to replace the letter X with the Greek Letter X Symbolicly it may resemble something like this: --- - ---
It would allow "flow". | | |
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