Moffesto and I have discussed this a LOT inrl lol.

They've basically done everything else with AIM, why not add skins to it? I'd love designing one, heh.

actually i think it is possible to skin AIM a girl i know(hardley good with computers)with a bit too much time on her hands after three days of non-stop searching found a rather lame skin it was just flowers she was looking for somthing better but went with it, she says it worked and this girl didnt even know what a skin was when i told her she was looking for a "background pic for aim" makes me wonder why you guys cant find one...possible she lied to me(not likley ha)

i think the 5.0 beta was skinable but if u use low resolutions it swallows much of the desktop, it sucks [censored].

maybe if neo would finish SAIM then skinning wouldn't be a problem because saim looks so leet in theory....

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Another thing, why would anyone ever think that the average aim user wants the Stock Ticker on by default, since they are lagged and most aim users don't know what stocks are. Ok, well they don't know how to use them.

what is SAIM may i ask? I would love to have a basic looking AIM like the one i seen for linux. No colors or kiddy looking features, just basic, fast, and everythign u need w/ html enabled in the text, etc.

i wanted to get someone (since i am not a jeet coder) to write an aim client with almost no features. All I wanted was either file send, or images connect, buddy list (which I would want to be maintained locally) instant messages and sign off. If that counts.

saim = starving aol instant messanger

Starving because of the lack of features. Also, it isn't skinnable and anyone who suggests it be skinnable is obviously missing the idea behind it. If someone wants it to look different, (right now it is supposed to look in a borders, flat, simple kind of look.) There are some pictures of how I want it to look on my site somewhere, can't hotlink though.

the windows won't be resizable, you can't do talk and no ad's (or someone is going to get stabbed by me), no text formatting (to the person you are talking to, your text is black 7pt tahoma on white. To you, their text is the same, but your text appears as a dark greenish blue color instead of black, to you.) or chat rooms, etc.

it will probably never get done, but i can dream...

The newest version of AIM is skin compatable, but it is pretty homo-sexual'ish...

Neo can't complete SAIM, he doens't have the code for IM Images or File Sends between SAIM and AIM... He could do between SAIM clients but thats about it so far...

All passwords would be stored with a 512bit RSA key for all those paranoid kids...

he should release a version w/o file sends or images till he gets the code. Id b happy w/o it, if i wanted to send a damn file id open up AIM, not a big lose

UPIN Programming is an all or none project, but we'll discuss it when he's allowed online more often.

lol, when he is allowed online more often.

I would be totally fine with no file send or images connect. I could always just email the image, or like Moff said open up aim and do it. Or dcc with an irc client.

If you guys start doing it, and release early versions as it goes, DO NOT call them saim unless it looks how it is supposed to. Style before Function.

yeah, give it a test name or something and create a demo or w/o all the extra [censored]. When its completely done... then name it SAIM and release it.

He should also include session logging.... record all the IMs for later reference, thats the best thing about AIM+

not to be a dick, but saim = starving aim = a huge lack of features = no text formatting, no talk, no chat rooms, no logging. If you wanna log, you can just copy paste. :\

Uhhh why not just get Trillian. Its skinable, has logging, blah blah blah.....works.

One feature IS going to be text formatting since AIM does all of that via HTML. We can do the "Profile" and "Text Formatting" just fine.

We weren't going to name it SAIM in the first place btw .

/me is guessing that you aren't even talking about saim. SAIM was something I asked neo to do about a month ago...well probably like 3 weeks ago. The thing I am talking about was called saim long before I told him to make it. In exchange for making it, I'm supposed to design a site for him.

do the logging . Much more usful feature than profile

lol, UPIN can do what they want, go for it. But neo needs to stick to the original stickiness of saim.